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    Hydrogen powered trains in Germany..

    Post by papa_umau on Fri 10 Nov 2017, 12:34 pm

    Hydrogen-powered fuel-cell trains to run on German rails from 2021.

    The world's first hydrogen-powered fuel-cell trains will run in Northern Germany by 2021.

    German rail firm LNVG have signed a deal for 14 fuel-cell trains with French engineering giants Alstrom.

    Get the full story from ABC News HERE




    You may or may not know that hydrogen, ( the world's most abundant element ), can, by using fuel cells, to metabolise it, be generated into electricity with a waste by-product of only water-vapour.

    Hydrogen fuel cells

    It has been tried with road vehicles, but this has not taken off because of the lack of hydrogen supply pumps in filling stations.

    Because these fourteen trains will be refuelled by a dedicated hydrogen production-plant there will be no barriers to getting them up and running.

    Maybe Britain could take this as an example ?


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    Re: Hydrogen powered trains in Germany..

    Post by Angie baby on Sat 11 Nov 2017, 12:06 pm

    And where are they going to get the power that will be needed to provide enough hydrogen ?

    I mean is hydrogen not just a by-product of fossil fuels.

    Wikipedia said:

    As of 1999, the majority of hydrogen (∼95%) is produced from fossil fuels by steam reforming or partial oxidation of methane and coal gasification with only a small quantity by other routes such as biomass gasification or electrolysis of water.

    Of course the greatest abundancy of hydrogen could be produced if the water molecule was split into it's component parts of hydrogen and oxygen by the use of hydrolysis, but even this process needs a lot of electricity to produce enough hydrogen to fuel all of these trains.
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    Re: Hydrogen powered trains in Germany..

    Post by papa_umau on Sun 12 Nov 2017, 12:22 pm

    There are plans to produce the hydrogen via hydrolysis using electricity from Lower Saxony's many wind turbines.


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    Re: Hydrogen powered trains in Germany..

    Post by Angie baby on Sat 18 Nov 2017, 11:40 am

    I suppose that the hydrogen locked up in water will be the most abundant source.

    I still think that hydrogen-fuel-cell road vehicles are not going to catch on, as hydrogen is difficult to store.
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    Re: Hydrogen powered trains in Germany..

    Post by papa_umau Yesterday at 12:35 pm

    Yes, my dear, you are right there that hydrogen is difficult to store and send through pipes as the molecule is so small that it easily passes through lots of sealing materials.


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