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    Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

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    Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by papa_umau on Wed 07 Jun 2017, 11:05 am

    Lyn Brown replaces Diane Abbott as shadow Home Secretary.

    Jeremy Corbyn's new shadow Home Secretary once quit his top team and urged the party to elect a new leader “for the good of the country”. 

    Lyn Brown was first appointed to Labour’s shadow home affairs team in 2015, before she stepped down after describing the situation as "untenable".

    Following a failed attempt to remove Corbyn from his position at the top of the party, Ms Brown was reappointed as minister for policing just months later in October 2016.

    Get the full story from The Telegraph HERE




    As I see it this says something about Jeremy Corbyn because any other party-leader would have sent Lyn Brown to the trenches for a very long time after opposing him in cabinet.

    This typical of the man who is honest, forward-thinking, and it shows that he does not hold a grudge.


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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by zathrus on Thu 08 Jun 2017, 12:41 pm

    There is something very dodgy going on here as I do not even think that Abbot has an illness as she is saying that "she will be back in the fray soon".

    Then again, maybe this "illness" is a mental one.
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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by Gandhi on Sat 10 Jun 2017, 11:14 am

    Diane Abbot is a useless waste of skin

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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by papa_umau on Sat 10 Jun 2017, 12:09 pm

    Well, that's one opinion I suppose.

    Anyway, even although nobody thought that Corbyn or The Labour Party would do as good as they did, including me, it was great to see the rise of the left wing of Labour once again.

    I bet that if the election was to be run again today, after we now know what is possible, that Labour would win a majority quite easily, and Theresa May would be out on her ear even quicker than she will be once the Tory stalking horses get going.


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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by Gandhi on Sat 10 Jun 2017, 5:26 pm

    Now you are making the classic mistake that politicians make - you think you understand politics.

    The most likely outcome would be a repeat of the same result. You also assume that the parties would use the same manifesti (?) whereas in any good fight each opponent learns the strengths and weaknesses of the enemy and copies them.

    Personally I think it is a brilliant result as nothing controversial will get through and as you know I think the less laws we have, the better.
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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by papa_umau on Sun 11 Jun 2017, 12:37 pm

    I still think that a lot of previous Labour supporters, especially in Scotland, would have voted Labour again if they had known that Corbyn and the English Labour Party were going to be so successful.

    Remember, that before the rise of the SNP, Scotland was almost totally Labour in political will.

    I think that the manifestos would have still been the same if they did know what the result might be as it was the Labour manifesto that contributed to much of the success of the election.

    Now that Labour HAS risen out of the depths, the next election will almost certainly be won by the hard left-wing and the moderate left-wing coming together in order to beat the Tories.


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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by Gandhi on Tue 13 Jun 2017, 5:47 pm

    So you vote with the herd (no pun intended), not the policies? Very strange.....

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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by papa_umau on Wed 14 Jun 2017, 10:59 am

    If you understand politics it is not "strange" at all, as almost all voters - apart from the floating voters - vote with their choice of political party rather than for the person.

    While I have been voting SNP for a number of years because I want independence from London and Westminster, if I thought that Labour could win again in Scotland, I would once again vote with my left-wing conscience in order to bring Labour back in Westminster.#

    If because of the failure of Theresa May and the Tories to form a stable government generates another general election, I and many thousands more in Scotland and the rest of the country will vote Labour in order to bring Socialism back into British politics.


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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by zathrus on Thu 15 Jun 2017, 11:45 am

    The latest news about Abbot is that she was sick with type2 diabetes.

    That is a rather strange story as all of the people with type 2 diabetes that I know can still work as long as they watch their diet and take their pills.

    Quite honestly I think that she is just lying.
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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by papa_umau on Fri 16 Jun 2017, 11:50 am

    Yeah, and you can believe that if you want to.

    I don't.


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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by Hell's Granny on Fri 16 Jun 2017, 10:59 pm

    Having been a nurse and also knowing more than a dozen people, including relatives, with Type 2, I can confidently say that the strain of those 6 weeks electioneering would definitely be likely to make things difficult for someone only diagnosed for a couple of years.

    The concentrated exertion, both physical and mental, could definitely cause the confusion she showed in interviews. I cannot blame her for standing down, she probably didn't expect the sheer pressure of snatched meals at irregular times, irregular sleep patterns, early morning interviews  at which she was expected to be on top form and the sheer whirlwind of electioneering with an endocrine disorder.
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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by papa_umau on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 11:47 am

    I am a bit surprised that you seem to be confusing type 2 diabetes with type 1 diabetes, as I know all about type 2 diabetes having first diagnosed with it more than thirty years ago.

    As I see it, Type 2 diabetes is all about severity whereby when sugar is being used fairly successfully it initially only needs a virtual sugar free diet to control it. As with myself, over the years, I have had to go on to two different medicines to control my sugar and insulin metabolism. For a while I was on the maximum doses of both gliclazide and Metformin.

    Now, after a lot of work to control my sugar intake and a great weight-loss, I have been reduced to half the dose of Metformin and have had the gliclazide stopped completely. ( The side effects with gliclazide were horrific ).

    All through my years of being a type 2 diabetic I have never stopped working or been ill in a very stressful job, or even showed obvious symptoms other than some peripheral neuropathy, so unless Mrs Abbot's Type 2 diabetes was much more sever than mine was I cannot see why she has had to stop working.

    I think that Diane Abbot is making the diabetes into a scapegoat for her inability to face, and do, her job as she should have.


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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by Hell's Granny on Sat 17 Jun 2017, 1:11 pm

    No, I'm not confusing the two, I know they are quite different. My late husband was type 2 and he could get like this with the stress of his high powered job and the extreme hours he worked with often scrappy sustenance. He was a Disaster Consultant for large Corporation's computer systems, and you didn't leave site until it was fixed, even if it took 48 hours, as happened with one large Newspaper Group.

    He wouldn't be told, however.

    Another younger friend of mine also has it, along with Heart problems, and he is a stubborn person too, and is currently in hospital in Newcastle because he didn't heed the warning signs.

    Several of my relatives are Type 2, but fortunately more sensible.
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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by Gandhi on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 10:18 am

    I think the 'wouldn't be told' phrase says it all. I can't imagine any circumstances whereby the fat cow would admit she was WRONG and do as the doctor tells her. Even when she passes away she will argue with St Peter that the clouds are not soft enough.

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    Re: Diane Abbot quits the shadow cabinet.

    Post by papa_umau on Sun 18 Jun 2017, 12:55 pm

    You REALLY do not have a good opinion of Diane Abbot Gandhi.

    Mind you it is interesting that you draw to our attention that she is obviously overweight, and I have found that being overweight can seriously exacerbate Type 2 diabetes.

    Although the diet is not as strict as with type 1 because of the balance that must be obtained between the insulin injections and the amount of sugar consumed, nevertheless, because type 2 sufferers also have to watch the sugar intake due to them not normally having to take outside insulin, the sugar they do take is not as easily metabolised into warmth and energy with the amount of natural insulin that the body of a fat person produces.

    I still say that any person with type 2 Diabetes will not get the massive highs and lows of the Type 1 condition, and as such will be very unlikely to get sick with it for just a short time.

    I think that Diane Abbot is trying to pull the wool over our eyes with the report that her type 2 diabetes had made her too ill to attend to her job.

    She should just resign from the party and go independent or she should get another job and let a By-election be called for her seat.


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