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    Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

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    Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by zathrus on Thu 06 Apr 2017, 11:20 am

    Supreme court upholds ban on term-time holidays.

    Justices at UKs highest court uphold fine imposed on Jon Platt for taking his daughter out of school for unauthorised break.

    The ban on parents taking their children out of school for family holidays during term time has been upheld by the supreme court.

    In a unanimous decision, the justices upheld a fine imposed on a father for taking his daughter out of school for an unauthorised seven-day break in April 2015.

    Almost 20,000 people prosecuted for pupil absences in 2015

    The dispute between Jon Platt and his local education authority, Isle of Wight council, has been watched carefully by teachers and parents across the UK. Platt successfully challenged the councils original lower court 60 fine last year.

    Read more about this here: https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/apr/06/supreme-court-upholds-ban-on-term-time-holidays-jon-platt-unauthorised-break

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    We all know that charges for children travelling in term time are much cheaper than when they travel out of term time as they bang up these charges simply because we have no chance to avoid such charges in any other way than taking our kids out of school.

    It is the travel operators that need to be fined for having two levels of charges for children travelling as they know that we have to risk getting fined if we are going to holiday during term time.

    This is cynical charging if I ever saw it.
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    Re: Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by papa_umau on Fri 07 Apr 2017, 11:30 am

    Yes, if any people want to take their children on holiday they have to do it - legally - when the schools are on holiday too. And, of course this is when the travel companies bang up the cost of taking kids on holiday.

    Some countries actually allow a week or two extra school holidays in order to serve this need, even Wales has this policy in Britain.

    The thing is that many fewer parents will now seriously think twice of taking their children out of school after this supreme court ruling.


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    Post by Angie baby on Sat 08 Apr 2017, 12:17 pm

    As a teacher I have to take the official line here as there is nothing harder to do than catch up an education with other pupils if a child has been taken away for holidays so the parents can save money.

    After all they do get a long summer holidays break anyway.

    Of course I agree that holidays should not be more expensive outwith term time.
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    Post by papa_umau on Sun 09 Apr 2017, 12:11 pm

    I think that is the precise secret here: if the child is going on holiday during term time, the air and other fares and expenses will be much cheaper than they usually are during school holidays.

    The thing is that if the cost of going on holiday during out-of-term time was set at the same price as during term time this whole subject would be moot.


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    Re: Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by Hell's Granny on Mon 10 Apr 2017, 1:15 pm

    Unfortunately, Holiday firms have gotten increasingly greedy over the last 20 or so years, which means sadly, that many parents on low incomes cannot afford to have holidays, even in the UK. Even camping has become prohibitively expensive.

    If you want to be able to take advantage of 'off peak' prices, the only resource is Home Education.
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    Re: Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by papa_umau on Tue 11 Apr 2017, 11:06 am

    Yes HG, the poorer you are the harder it is to find a good deal in that world.


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    Re: Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by Gandhi on Fri 14 Apr 2017, 6:53 pm

    Yet it is ok for schools to have inset days and bad weather days, supply teachers and generally give poor quality education.

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    Re: Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by papa_umau on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 11:17 am

    While it is true that schools have bad-weather days and teacher-training days and such, I cannot agree with you that they "generally give poor education".

    Don't blame the schools or the courts for fining parents if they take their children off on holiday. I, like many others here, and elsewhere, blame the greedy holiday companies for banging up the prices during off-term days.

    For people who find it difficult to afford to take their family on holiday this GREED of the holiday companies only hurts the poorest people in Britain the most.

    This site will always be the champion of the poor, the weak, and the sick in Britain.


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    Re: Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by Gandhi on Sat 15 Apr 2017, 1:46 pm

    Clearly you have never heard of supply and demand Paps
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    Re: Don't take your kids out of school at term-time.

    Post by papa_umau on Sun 16 Apr 2017, 12:21 pm

    That is just an insulting remark Gandhi. "Supply and demand" only works when it is done fairly.

    Because all of the holiday companies bang up the charges for in term holidays, the people who need to take their kids on holiday are forced to do it during term time in order to try to beat the outrageous prices rises during the official school holidays.

    It is just plain wrong that parents can be ripped off for taking their kids on holiday during the off-term periods.

    It's not "supply and demand", it's just profiteering.


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