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    British-born attacker 'known to MI5'

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    British-born attacker 'known to MI5'

    Post by zathrus on Thu 23 Mar 2017, 11:12 am

    I find it awful that the guy who was shot dead after stabbing and killing one of our policemen yesterday had been known to MI5 for some time.

    If they knew about this nut-case why did they not do anything about him ?
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    Post by papa_umau on Fri 24 Mar 2017, 11:32 am

    The questions I would like to ask are: If this policeman victim was a personal bodyguard to one of the senior politicians, ( as was reported today ), why was he not armed, and where was his support officer at the time, as they almost always go about in twos in such vulnerable areas.

    In fact, I would have expected all of the police officers on duty around our parliament buildings to have been routinely armed.

    I bet they will be now !

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    Post by Angie baby on Sat 25 Mar 2017, 12:10 pm

    The government is very nervous about arming any police routinely as they are afraid that the people would rise up and criticise any such move.

    I do agree, though, that when protecting railway stations, government offices, and especially Westminster, all of the cops there should be armed, as if the terrorists knew they were armed they would think twice about attacking these, at the moment, easy targets.
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    Post by papa_umau on Sun 26 Mar 2017, 12:18 pm

    Quite a good point Angie, but I think that terrorists that are willing to die for their cause do not care if the cops they go against are armed or not.


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    Re: British-born attacker 'known to MI5'

    Post by Gandhi on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 8:26 am

    Just goes to show that all the extra resources thrown at the security services is a complete waste of money. Together with increased powers of surveillance. Better to spend the money on getting the foreign office to earn their keep and pulling out of foreign wars.
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    Post by papa_umau on Mon 27 Mar 2017, 11:05 am

    "Pulling out of foreign wars" will do nothing about the weaknesses at home.

    The fact that this ISIS drone attacked an unarmed policeman tells us that if we do not have all of the police armed while protecting vulnerable sites we will see more of these easy-target murders.


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    Re: British-born attacker 'known to MI5'

    Post by Gandhi on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 8:53 am

    In retaliation for UK atrocities in Syria - How many more times do we have to hear this?

    Arming plod will just push the problem out into the burbs where they are not armed.

    Bliar has a lot to answer for
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    Re: British-born attacker 'known to MI5'

    Post by papa_umau on Wed 29 Mar 2017, 11:01 am

    Short of giving all of the cops guns they are now planning to equip them with tasers.

    Even if that cop that was stabbed to death had had a taser he might still be alive.

    And BTW, the ISIS animals do not need any reasons to kill civilians and the excuse of reprisals against "UK atrocities" is just a way to give them credence which they do not deserve.

    Arming all of the cops with tasers and all of the protection ranks with Heckler Koch MP5s and semi-automatic handguns will definitely make the potential terrorists think twice. ( At the moment many of them are already armed this way ).


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    Re: British-born attacker 'known to MI5'

    Post by Gandhi on Tue 04 Apr 2017, 4:09 pm

    Clearly you do not understand terrorism then. They DO need a reason for their cowardly acts, and, quite frankly, by meddling in their affairs we give them one.

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    Post by papa_umau on Wed 05 Apr 2017, 10:31 am

    The basis behind the terrorists is religion and hate and if they did not have the excuses that you suggest they would find something, anything, to kill the infidels, in their eyes.


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