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    Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

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    Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by papa_umau on Wed 30 Nov 2016, 11:05 am

    Official report reveals the hated benefit sanctions regime costs taxpayers 153million more a year to run than it saves

    The brutal cuts which make so many lives a misery save just 132m a year while it costs 285m a year to run.

    Read the full report from The Scottish Daily Record online HERE




    Well folks, this does not surprise me one bit as how many times has this government embarked on expensive moves in order to save money, and either they did not work or they cost more to run that they save.

    Here is another example of just this kind of wastefulness.

    I hope they have the sensibility to realise that this particular cruel move is costing us more than it saves, and they scrap it before it has cost too much.


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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by Gandhi on Thu 01 Dec 2016, 9:44 am

    If it is true then it doesn't surprise me - many government cost saving measures end up costing more to run than they save - the fiasco on doing away with the car tax disc is a classic example. This is why the private sector will always out perform the public sector in most situations.

    I do have one question tho Paps and I want an honest answer because I don't live in Scotland. How much can the Daily Record be believed ? Thanks partly to Brexit and Trump the media have been making up 'facts' to suit their agenda without quoting sources or checking them (the call it 'post truth' politics). How much do the Record pursue an anti English agenda as opposed to an anti Scottish government agenda?

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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by Hell's Granny on Thu 01 Dec 2016, 4:30 pm

    I am quite minded to believe the Daily Record over the London Based Press.

    Apart from sanctions, the PIP system for the disabled, costs far more to administer than it saves, due to the tortuous Appeals system which must by it's very complexity cost more than the DLA it replaced. The cost of firstly a Mandatory reconsideration, followed by a primary Appeal, followed by a secondary one is immense, tying up legal as well as DWP Staff.

    The DWP is not good value for our taxes.
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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by papa_umau on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 12:32 pm

    Gandhi wrote:If it is true then it doesn't surprise me - many government cost saving measures end up costing more to run than they save - the fiasco on doing away with the car tax disc is a classic example. This is why the private sector will always out perform the public sector in most situations.

    I do have one question tho Paps and I want an honest answer because I don't live in Scotland. How much can the Daily Record be believed ? Thanks partly to Brexit and Trump the media have been making up 'facts' to suit their agenda without quoting sources or checking them (the call it 'post truth' politics). How much do the Record pursue an anti English agenda as opposed to an anti Scottish government agenda?

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    Although it is hard to definitively say that The SCOTTISH Daily Record is not biased to Scotland, all it takes is for anyone to get and read a copy of The Mirror and the viewer will see almost word-for-word that what is in The Mirror is repeated verbatim in The Record.

    Few tabloids are truly independent and as long as we know this we can often read between the lines and make up our own minds.

    If any of them deliberately print lies they can be sued very quickly, as has been done regularly over the past few months and years.

    Hells Granny......

    Getting back to the subject, these grotesque PIP rulings SHOULD be scrapped ASAP as they are as unfair as any DWP attack on the poor and the disabled has been in the past.

    As far as this is concerned, Theresa May should be thoroughly ashamed of herself, as she has went back on her promise and she is regenerating the "nasty-party" into one that is as ugly as it ever was under Thatcher.


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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by Gandhi on Fri 02 Dec 2016, 2:53 pm

    There are no other Daily Records are there?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daily_Record_(Scotland)

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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by papa_umau on Sat 03 Dec 2016, 11:59 am

    Please clarify the question Gandhi.


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    Benefit Sanctions.

    Post by Parliament.... on Mon 12 Dec 2016, 9:06 pm

    Benefit Sanctions are nothing more than a Tory P.R stunt to get votes and it worked at the last General election. Nothing to do with costs.
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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by papa_umau on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 4:47 pm

    Maybe so Parliament, and welcome to the board. ( in another persona ).

    You still cannot hide the fact that this hated act costs more to gather than it does towards helping to solve the budget deficit problem.

    Their right-wing supporters might like it when the government attack the poor and the disabled and the weak, but it does nothing at all towards supporting Theresa May's "one-nation government".


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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by Parliament.... on Tue 13 Dec 2016, 6:11 pm

    papa_umau wrote:Maybe so Parliament, and welcome to the board. ( in another persona ).

    You still cannot hide the fact that this hated act costs more to gather than it does towards helping to solve the budget deficit problem.

    Their right-wing supporters might like it when the government attack the poor and the disabled and the weak, but it does nothing at all towards supporting Theresa May's "one-nation government".

    Note, I said "nothing to do with costs".
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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by papa_umau on Thu 15 Dec 2016, 11:05 am

    It's supposed to have something to do with costs, but if it is supposed to save taxpayers money then it is a complete waste of time.

    AGAIN, do you ever listen to other people's points, as it appears that the only points you care about are your'e own, as usual.


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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by Gandhi on Sun 18 Dec 2016, 11:12 am

    You called it the SCOTTISH daily record? It is the Daily record and may be published in scotland but is not titled the scottish daily record.

    I love it when Scots compare themselves with England when they dont need to - inferiority complex or what!

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    Re: Hated benefits sanctions cost more than they save.

    Post by papa_umau on Tue 20 Dec 2016, 4:00 pm

    I think it is you that has the complex.

    The Scottish Daily Record might not have the word "Scottish" in it's banner headline, but it is only published in Scotland even if it is re-printed and read all over the world.

    Even if it is just one of a few other newspapers that are sold in Scotland, it specialises in Scottish news.

    Just go to THIS link.

    So you are fully informed about this Scottish newspaper visit THIS link

    In fact, I was able to buy my Scottish Daily Record every day in Lanzarote. ( incidentally that paper is printed without colour in The Canary Islands for all of the islands including Lanzarote ).


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