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    'Brakes - it'

    Post by Gandhi on Fri 25 Nov 2016, 7:43 am

    With apologies for the pun our senior statesmen are not afraid to stand up and be counted in what is fast becoming clear as a cock-up of gargantuan proportions.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/24/brexit-can-stopped-says-tony-blair/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/24/brexit-can-stopped-says-tony-blair/

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/25/brexit-sir-john-major-says-perfectly-credible-case-for-second-referendum

    With 16 million voters concerned about the likely effects on the EU it ain't over yet

    What do our readers think?

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    Post by papa_umau on Fri 25 Nov 2016, 11:48 am

    Talk about a couple of once-important come-back kids in Major and Blair.

    They are just getting their oars into Brexit to try to revive their past-and-gone political fortunes.

    I think that just about anybody that has any nouse about politics are expecting - after the support of the High Court by the Supreme court - that if the steps that are going to be taken to try to get to the point where we actually come out of Europe each go to a Commons vote these log-jam debates and votes are going to bring getting out of Europe down to an extended, ( maybe for many years to come ), squabble.

    In fact, if all of these points back and forward, to and from, The Lords, cannot be resolved we may see the actual pulling out of the EU simply dying away to be lost in the sands of time.


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    Post by Hell's Granny on Fri 25 Nov 2016, 2:03 pm

    To be quite candid, I'm past caring. I'm sick and tired of all this shilly shallying about.
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    Post by papa_umau on Sat 26 Nov 2016, 12:34 pm

    Yeah, me too HG.

    The thing is that all of this "shilly-shallying" has only just started, and all of the details that are needing to be dealt with may take a very long time if they are sorted out one point at a time.

    If the Supreme Court uphold the rulings of The High Court then this will give impetus to all of the for-and- against arguers to get stuck deeply into the details before every one of these points go to a Commons vote.

    AND.... as I have already said," if the Commons gets a full debate on all of these complicated points attached to pulling out of Europe, and each of these votes needs to go to The Lords for ratification - or not - this could take many years to sort out".

    Another point was raised by the Supreme Court officials just yesterday that is liable to make this "shilly-shallying" go on for even longer, as they asked if they could get advice from the Supreme Court of Europe before they finally give a ruling on the High Court appeal.

    This is so stupid that you could not create any more nonsense if you wrote it as a fictional story.


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    Re: 'Brakes - it'

    Post by Angie baby on Sat 26 Nov 2016, 1:11 pm

    Yes Gandhi, as you say... in your rather obvious way "it aint over yet".
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    Post by papa_umau on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 12:01 pm

    And it is going to rumble on for a very long time yet.

    I sometimes wish that the democracy question had never been raised at all as if it had not Theresa May could have just got on and pushed Brexit through on her own.

    As far as Scotland is concerned, as soon as we know what we are going to lose via Brexit, we can then start to think of a second referendum so that at least, if we win this vote, we will be able to get back much of what we lost as an independent country and a new member of the EU in the best way possible.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Mon 28 Nov 2016, 9:29 pm

    Hi All,

    PC been down, so now back in full swing.

    I am over the moon at this Gandhi, its great news !!!. So pleased Blair has got involved. He is so hated in this country that he will push the population firmly into the BREXIT camp. A fantastic home goal. Recent polls suggest that if a further referendum were held ( which you seem confused about Gandhi, as I don'think you rate them anyway ! ) over 68% would now vote LEAVE !!!!

    Bring it on !!!

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    Re: 'Brakes - it'

    Post by papa_umau on Tue 29 Nov 2016, 11:20 am

    While "polls" at election times can be useful, for other reasons that are vastly divisive they can sometimes be found to say what the pollster wants them to say.

    If a polling organisation has any particular expectation of a result that might uphold their question, they invariably ask the demographic of people who are going to give them the answer they expect.

    In other words, we often have to take the results of some polls with a pinch of salt.


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