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    Labour Leadership contest.

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    Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by Hell's Granny on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 1:40 pm

    What do folk think of all the fighting and feuding going on over the Leadership?
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    Re: Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by papa_umau on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 3:04 pm

    It's awful isn't it.

    They are behaving like a bunch of Tories. Twisted Evil

    I guess that many of the parliamentary party are just not happy about Corbyn leading them any more as he is just too far to the left and doesn't even look like a potential Prime Minister.

    I would hope that after they finally decide on who is going to lead the party that they all get together and fight the Tories instead of each other.

    Even as a confirmed lefty I don't think that Corbyn is going to win the next general election.


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    Re: Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by zathrus on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 11:58 am

    This is going to sort itself out soon when a vote is taken over Corbyn or Owen Smith.
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    Just like the Tories

    Post by Gandhi on Fri 29 Jul 2016, 8:30 am

    17 days start to finish - this has been going on since the last GE

    Seriously though I have yet to hear anything dislikeable from Corbyn - the press have been vilifying him and I think even you have been taken in Paps. What makes me sick is the naked ambition of Eagle & Co - they dont give a f""" about the labour movement, they just want to get elected.

    This article sums it up http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/27/missing-presumed-lost-andy-burnhams-spine/ he will do anything but the right thing for a bit of the action. No wonder Spurgeon found it so easy in Scotland

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    Re: Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by papa_umau on Fri 29 Jul 2016, 11:38 am

    That's the problem Gandhi, although Jeremy Corbyn is a "likeable" guy, he is far too far left for the general population and he does not look anything like a statesman.

    Image is all in politics and I don't think Corbyn has it.

    Owen Smith IS a lefty and not a Blairite and we may find that most of the people voting in the Labour movement will be inclined to vote for him. He also looks like he could make a good Prime Minister.


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    Re: Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by Gandhi on Sat 30 Jul 2016, 7:57 am

    I'm beginning to worry about you paps - here I am defending the loony left to a champagne socialist!

    Corbyns policies mostly make a lot of sense, they are just not being reported. The mutineers are trying to sound like bliar/cameron but they are too late.

    Labour has been doing well in by elections increasing their majorities. Some say that is nothing to do with corbs, others that it is in spite of corbs. It is certainly nothing to do with UKIP as they would like to think.

    Better go get the political area of your brain scanned methinks

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    Re: Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by papa_umau on Sat 30 Jul 2016, 11:44 am

    Don't be so bloody cheeky Gandhi.

    Yes, I am a lefty, but I am not from the "loonie left", as you probably are.

    I abhor any kind of extremist politics even although you cannot lay the Champagne Socialist tag on me.

    Carl Marx once said "Middle of the road politics is a dangerous place to be as that is where all the traffic is", but that also means that that is where the greatest number of the votes will come from.

    While I am giving you a wee lecture on politics: I think it is worth saying that although Tony Blair and the New-labour group tried to appeal to the right wing as well as the centre-left wing found in the voters, his type of Labour politics failed miserably after the true middle ground found him out.

    As much as I like him, we have to be realistic in that Jeremy Corbyn is never going to make a Prime Minister or take the Labour party to where the mass of the "middle-ground" votes can be found.


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    Re: Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by Angie baby on Sun 31 Jul 2016, 11:44 am

    As I too come from the middle-left of politics I have a strong attraction to Owen Smith.

    If he can prove that he is a true left winger I think he will be able to steal a lot of the votes presently going to Corbyn.

    I think that he is the only truly uniting candidate.
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    Re: Labour Leadership contest.

    Post by papa_umau on Mon 01 Aug 2016, 11:51 am

    I am inclined to agree with you there Angie.

    If the Labour party are going to be accepted by the great mass of the people that are not hard-line Tory voters they are going to have to do a lot to persuade the electorate that the old-Labour flaws are no longer going to be employed.

    Maybe Own Smith could do this by copying some of the New-Labour policies without turning the party into a poor copy of the Tories, as Blair did.

    He still has a few years yet to rejig the Labour party, but he has a lot of work ahead of him if he is going to make Labour electable again.


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