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    May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by Angie baby on Sun 17 Jul 2016, 12:37 pm

    Reading a BBC article today I found it very strange that Theresa May is not going to trigger the article 50 clause that will take Britain out of Europe until she has a fully "UK approach" to the subject: whatever that means.

    Read this and see what you think: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36800536

    She is reported as saying this during her meeting with the Scottish First Minister.

    What do you say about this Papa, as it sounds as if she is not going to start the withdrawal procedure until she has a promise that Scotland will not have another referendum and go back into Europe afterwards.
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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Sun 17 Jul 2016, 2:44 pm

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    Hello Angie,

    Not surprised, but I did not think she would start her antics so soon. Let her try, she will see such a backlash I think she may not have long in No 10 if this goes on. She needs to consider that the larger % of grass root Tory's wanted BREXIT. Let us see what transpires, but her every move is being scrutinised, and I am sure she does not want civil unrest and a mass exodous to UKIP. You can rest assured if the shoe was on the other foot you would get no flexibility from Ms Sturgeon !

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    Re: May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by papa_umau on Mon 18 Jul 2016, 11:48 am

    I don't think she is being "flexible" here; I think she is just trying to show that she is going along with Scotland's wish to remain.

    She did vote for "remain" even although now she is going to be forced to activate article 50 sooner or later.

    Of course she is well aware that Scotland did not vote to get out of Europe and she is trying to placate the Scots by promising something she has no control over.

    I think that as things get worse and worse under Brexit May knows that the argument for another independence referendum will grow stronger and stronger.

    I have to admit that I would not like to be in Theresa May's shoes as she tries to placate her own Tories and the Scots at the same time.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Fri 22 Jul 2016, 7:13 pm

    Hi All,

    Take it from me things will only get BETTER under Brexit !. I am afraid it is Scotland which is being sold the pup.

    Once the moaning has died down and the sensible people of Scotland start to realise that they have well and truly been had by the SNP and the likes of Salmond and Sturgeon her political days will be numbered. Why in Hell would anyone want to join a dysfunctional and failing Eurozone. As I have said many times before it is only a matter of time before the whole sordid project implodes, as implode it will.

    I would not like to be in Scotland when it does, and at a time when you have left the rest of Britain and sold your soul to the Devil. The term 'up s*it creek' comes to mind.

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    Re: May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by Gandhi on Sat 23 Jul 2016, 7:41 am

    The only implosion is the UK economy - we are not even out and the economy is collapsing. Get ready for 6m unemployed, rationing, riots in the streets....our only hope is that the Prime Minister does what is right for the country rather than try to placate the w**kers that sold out the country with a dream then promptly retired to spend their winnings.

    Sorry Tech but it is you thats been sold the pup - and I will carry on saying I told you so until you apologise for all those posts promising the stars

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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Sat 23 Jul 2016, 9:43 am

    Hi All,

    17 million democratic voters all wa*kers ????. Get real Gandhi!!!

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    Post by papa_umau on Sat 23 Jul 2016, 11:50 am

    I would love to think that things will get better under Brexit, but the indications do not point towards that.

    Maybe we will build up a better export trade with the world markets once we are "free" of Europe, but even that is not going to come at any time soon.


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    Re: May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by Angie baby on Sat 23 Jul 2016, 12:10 pm

    Now now boys, play nice. Basketball

    I am thinking that because May voted for Remain she will not be too keen to trigger article 50.

    Mind you, she can only delay this move for so long as she will be under a lot of pressure to carry out the wishes of the English and Welsh voters.
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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Sat 23 Jul 2016, 5:14 pm

    Hi all,

    Thanks Angie...However May will have NO OPTION but to trigger article 50. She can delay all she likes. She was a 'closet' campaigner at the best. By the way we have had great interest from other countries who are only too happy to trade with us, just as you say...Give it time.

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    Post by papa_umau on Sun 24 Jul 2016, 11:59 am

    True Technician.

    Now that we are going to get out of the clutches of the EC we are going to look like a much better partner for world trade.

    At least, I hope so.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Tue 26 Jul 2016, 11:08 am

    Hi All,

    Thanks Paps, I know we disagree on a number of points, but we both want what we think is best!!....We shall just have to wait and see.

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    Re: May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by Gandhi on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 8:59 am

    The referendum was offered to head off the ukip threat. The country was split almost equally on the issue and it only takes a pro EU pressure group to look like winning a ge for a second referedum to be on the cards,

    No tech - you think its all over, but it has just begun. I have no wish to see a return to 4 million unemployed and will take every step in my power to make sure brexit remains the fantasy Fromage created.
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    Post by papa_umau on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 10:56 am

    That'd just it Gandhi, the poll was NOT split equally and that is why the majority vote won.

    Even as a remain voter myself I know that we ( Britain, as it stands ), have to abide by the democratic decision to leave the EU.

    That is not to say that Scotland should accept this decision as part of the UK, as Scotland did NOT democratically vote to leave.

    The answer for us is to get independence and THEN to re-jig our membership of Europe. Many of the most important member states have already said that we will be welcomed back into the EU as a sovereign country.

    Also Gandhi, no-one knows what the final costs will be after brexit, as until article 50 is triggered and Britain does pull out, all of the arguments for an against will be pure conjecture.


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    Re: May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by Hell's Granny on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 1:35 pm

    I noted with interest today on MSN News that the person who wrote Article 50 never intended it to be used.
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    Post by papa_umau on Wed 27 Jul 2016, 2:59 pm

    Hi HG.... I noticed that you didn't finish that entry.

    I hope you are alright ?


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    Post by Hell's Granny on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 3:01 pm

    I'm fine thanks, but I can't recall the full text of the News article. Apparently the Man who drafted it is Italian and he was asked to do it as a 'supposed' back door to get out, but it was never intended for use, just as a way to reassure Members that there 'was' a way out.
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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Thu 28 Jul 2016, 4:02 pm

    Hi All,

    Sorry Gandhi , it is over. As I said, you can always make plans to leave the UK and go and live in an EU member state.

    Its about time the REMAIN moaners stopped throwing their toys out the pram, accepted a democratic vote and talked the country up to support our future instead of saying how bad we all are..Pathetic !

    By the way if the vote to have the refendum was reaction to keep UKIP out they must have been ruddy damn scared of such a 'failed' party then !!

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    Re: May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by Gandhi on Fri 29 Jul 2016, 8:34 am

    Ah hahahahaha you think its all over don't you tech?

    As Churchill said this is not the end, this is not even the beginning of the end, this is the end of the beginning.

    16 million can make a bigger noise than the pathetic 4million that UKIP had

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    Post by papa_umau on Fri 29 Jul 2016, 11:32 am

    Gandhi....

    52 percent of the total in Britain that voted, voted for OUT and 48 percent voted to stay. The 52 percent won.

    This had nothing or very little to do with UKIP and their followers.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Fri 29 Jul 2016, 5:15 pm

    Hi All,

    Yep Paps, it does have very little to do with UKIP voting numbers or followers. Of course they were over the moon when we voted out though !!!
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    Post by Gandhi on Sat 30 Jul 2016, 7:49 am

    Paps - read my posts - the referendum was offered solely to placate the 4m UKIP voters
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    Re: May not going to trigger article 50 until a UK approach.

    Post by papa_umau on Sat 30 Jul 2016, 11:32 am

    I have no clue where you got that idea as UKIP were not nearly as important or influential as you seems to think.

    I firmly believe that the vote went for "OUT" because a lot of people, who were not probably UKIP supporters, were worried about the immigration problem and for little other reasons than that.

    It has been published that a large percentage of the people who voted FOR brexit were Labour party voters from the grass-roots levels.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Sat 30 Jul 2016, 2:07 pm

    Hi All,

    The ONLY reason Cameron offered a referendum on the EU was because the Tory party were s*it scared they would heamorrhage votes to UKIP if they did not, and of course that is just what would have happened; and will indeed come to pass if May thinks she can fob the public off.

    Farage is HATED by the elitisist Euro loving multiculturalist left ( That's why Sturgeon loves him so much ! ).

    People who think the vast population of the UK can be treated as dirt, such as Mandelson and his chums, Blairites and Osborne and his Eaton mates got a rude awakening. They realised suddenly that life did not just evolve about metropolitan London and Sloane Square. For too long they have had 'cosy government' and thought it acceptable to ride roughshod over the views of the polulace. Well, no longer.

    Like Farage or hate him the man has done more to put a bomb under the cosy establishment smirking than any other politician for years, and he is not even an MP !. He has done this by hard, footslogging work, talking and travelling to see the elctorate for over 25 years. When all other poiticians have been forgotten in many years time there will be in all pobability be a statue of him; like there is of that other great Englishman Oliver Cromwell who put two fingers up to the establishment.

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    Post by papa_umau on Sun 31 Jul 2016, 11:11 am

    There is no doubt that Farage and his UKIP mob HAVE given the establishment politicos a real fright.

    Mind you I cannot see where you found that Sturgeon "LOVED" Farage as she and her SNP party as just about as far removed as any personage or party can get as far as Farage and Sturgeon are concerned.

    Farage and his UKIP party wanted OUT and Sturgeon, her SNP party and the majority of the Scots, wanted to remain.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Sun 31 Jul 2016, 12:40 pm

    Hi All,

    That was a JOKE Paps!!!!.....she hates his guts !

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