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    Children 'denied mental health support'.

    Post by Angie baby on Sat 28 May 2016, 12:07 pm

    More than a quarter of children referred to mental health services in England in 2015 - including some who had attempted suicide - received no help, a report says.

    A review by the Children's Commissioner also found that 13% with life-threatening conditions were not allowed specialist support.

    She said the system was "playing Russian roulette" with their health.

    NHS England said it was spending an extra 1.4bn to expand services.

    Here's the news item from The BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36398247

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    It is bad enough that the "Care in the Community" plans have failed miserable for mentally ill adults, but it is unforgivable that the same has happened in the case of children with such problems.

    Although very rarely, every now and again I see signs of these kinds of problems with the children in my own class and even if I report them to my Head nothing ever seems to get done.

    What kind of a society are we coming to when we let children suffer with these kinds of problems.

    We should all be ashamed of ourselves.
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    Post by papa_umau on Sun 29 May 2016, 12:31 pm

    Good posting Angie. I saw this on the news last night and I agree that it is true that if we cannot provide care for the sick or mentally disabled children in our midst then we SHOULD be ashamed of ourselves.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Sun 29 May 2016, 7:40 pm

    Hi All,

    Good post Angie, its a health lottery in regards to mental health in the UK. The situation is dire in some areas ( and it will only get WORSE as the migrant crisis spirals out of control ).

    Case in point, and it not just children. My nephew (he's 20 ) has severe anxiety and he is also awaiting blood test results as he has been unwell now for some weeks. That said he has an appointment to see a mental health practiioner ( one to one ) within the next week. Problem is there are just too few of them. Many patients cannot get one to one sessions and are being directed to 'group therapy' sessions. This may be ideal for some, but not for others.

    I suspect the services are doing what they can considering the demand; but also its just crass bad planning in a lot of cases. I am not afraid to admit that following my retirement I developed quite severe health anxiety and my GP thought CBT would help. Well it has, and I got myself one to one sessions but it took 20 MONTHS of waiting. Despite me phoning up the Clinical Commissioning Group and complaining. I had to hang in there and help myself a lot of the time. Yes, you could go private, but I support the NHS, and lets face it not evewryone can afford it either !

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    Re: Children 'denied mental health support'.

    Post by papa_umau on Mon 30 May 2016, 11:39 am

    Yes Technician, the NHS fails miserable when we are forced to go and pay for, ( if we can afford it ), mental health services.

    Although I am not a Brexit supporter, I do agree that the country has a maximum limit of people that it can support in this way and uncontrolled immigration exacerbates this.

    Mind you, after the stay-in vote wins the referendum I still think that there will be severe pressure put on government to cut down on uncontrolled immigration.

    Cameron promised that he would cut it to 100,000 per year but in this he has failed miserably.

    If we wanted to, ( not being signatories to the Schengen agreement ), we could simply shut the border for everybody but the genuine war refugees, who would have to be seriously vetted before allowing in.


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    Re: Children 'denied mental health support'.

    Post by zathrus on Thu 02 Jun 2016, 11:51 am

    It has been said that because around 20,000 fewer have left Britain the net number that are migrants is 333,000.

    A drop in the number of British people moving abroad not an influx of immigrants caused an increase in net migration last year.

    Net migration rose to 333,000 in 2015, up 20,000 from the previous year. But theres more than meets the eye to the figures, as detailed in a report by the Office for National Statistics.

    Contrary to reports stating 20,000 more immigrants moved to Britain in 2015 than in 2014, the report reveals 22,000 fewer Britons moved abroad last year.

    Read this from The Metro, here: http://metro.co.uk/2016/05/30/british-people-are-to-blame-for-rise-in-net-migration-not-immigrants-5913636/

    Isn't it fun what can be done with numbers ?
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    Post by papa_umau on Fri 03 Jun 2016, 11:20 am

    Sadly, the amount of "fun" we might get from the manipulation of numbers does not help to solve the crisis that we had with a net number of over 333,000 migrants coming to Britain last year.

    Something does need to be done about these high numbers as Britain simply cannot keep on receiving net numbers like that.

    I don't know if pulling out of Europe will actually solve this problem, but it certainly is the problem that is driving the great mass of the "OUT" voters.


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    Post by Nuthin fancy on Fri 03 Jun 2016, 1:30 pm

    Hi all,

    No one can predict or avoid mental health issues, migrants or others. They all need help whoever they are. That said Paps your quote is very telling:

    'Something does need to be done about these high numbers as Britain simply cannot keep on receiving net numbers like that'.

    EXACTLY, that is just the point. its not that this country has not welcomed migrants or that they have not contributed vastly to the country. They have. What is different now ( since Labour's disaster of rubbing 'multiculturalism' in our noses ) are the sheer NUMBERS. it cannot go on and its got to stop. Vote Out and we will get an Australian style points system which has worked wonders for the Australians. Stay in and we face disaster and civil unrest.

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    Re: Children 'denied mental health support'.

    Post by papa_umau on Sat 04 Jun 2016, 11:40 am

    I cannot disagree with you on all of that, but I will say that pulling out of Europe will not stop illegal immigrants - for whatever reason - trying to get to Britain.

    The fact that these displaced people are willing to risk death crossing parts of the Mediterranean sea, that is up to a thousand miles wide, shows just how desperate these people are. The twenty miles across the English channel will look like nothing in comparison.

    In or out of Europe, this flow of refugees is not going to be even slowed never mind stopped.


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