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    The bed-tax axed in Scotland.

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    The bed-tax axed in Scotland.

    Post by papa_umau on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 12:37 pm

    OK, I know that what is planned is not actually the "axing" of the bedroom tax, as the Scottish government do not have the devolved power to do this properly, but the SNP government up here CAN sort out the money to remove it from all of the local authorities by subsidising all of the money that is taken by it.

    In fact the Scottish government have decided to cover the full extent of the housing benefits costs that are taken via this iniquitous tax so that none of the money will now actually be taken from the rented sector that falls foul of this tax.

    Deputy First Minister, Nicola Sturgeon, said yesterday that they are "more than willing" to put in the extra 15 million that will be required to wipe out this tax in Scotland. ( The total cost to pay for this tax will actually be 50 million, but all that is left to pay is the 15 million that the Scottish government are going to find ).

    This act will be finalised by a cross-party vote at Holyrood on Wednesday. The details about how this will actually work will also be discussed and finalised at that meeting.


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    Re: The bed-tax axed in Scotland.

    Post by riders_on_the_storm on Mon 03 Feb 2014, 7:10 pm

    Where are they going to "find it"?
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    Re: The bed-tax axed in Scotland.

    Post by papa_umau on Tue 04 Feb 2014, 11:37 am

    Of course that is a very good question, but my answer to that question is to find the money from areas where it can be afforded and to stop taking this money from the poorest and weakest in our society.

    That is a Tory way of doing things and it is certainly going to be one of the subjects that is going to help to boot them out of government next year.

    The latest on this move:

    In a shocking action, Lord Freud, The UK Welfare Minister, ( who lives in an eight bedroomed country house ), has refused to remove the discretionary housing payments cap that will be required to fully subsidise this relief of the bedroom tax in Scotland.

    It is now looking like the money will have to be found via some different ways including setting up a "prevention of homelessness fund" or copying the initiatives already in place in Renfrewshire and East Lothian.

    As part of an editorial in my morning newspaper it was said that: "It's almost as if the Tories cannot walk past a stick without picking it up and asking Salmond to hit them with it !"

    I don't think they realise just how much damage this awful tax is doing to their political credibility.


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    Re: The bed-tax axed in Scotland.

    Post by zathrus on Thu 06 Feb 2014, 12:59 pm

    Be honest Paps, it is not actually "axed" as you say, it is only moved around.

    While it is good that the poor and often disabled folk that are getting hit by this tax are now getting full relief in Scotland, it still has to be paid in full to the London treasury.

    Mind you, this move by the SNP government certainly does hit the Tories where it hurts.

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    Re: The bed-tax axed in Scotland.

    Post by riders_on_the_storm on Wed 12 Feb 2014, 10:25 pm

    papa_umau wrote:Of course that is a very good question, but my answer to that question is to find the money from areas where it can be afforded and to stop taking this money from the poorest and weakest in our society.

    That is a Tory way of doing things and it is certainly going to be one of the subjects that is going to help to boot them out of government next year.

    The latest on this move:

    In a shocking action, Lord Freud, The UK Welfare Minister, ( who lives in an eight bedroomed country house ), has refused to remove the discretionary housing payments cap that will be required to fully subsidise this relief of the bedroom tax in Scotland.

    It is now looking like the money will have to be found via some different ways including setting up a "prevention of homelessness fund" or copying the initiatives already in place in Renfrewshire and East Lothian.

    As part of an editorial in my morning newspaper it was said that: "It's almost as if the Tories cannot walk past a stick without picking it up and asking Salmond to hit them with it !"

    I don't think they realise just how much damage this awful tax is doing to their political credibility.

    Like the poll tax as well, don't they think oh lots of people aren't going to like this we'll get hammered at the elections? Although labour screwed us just as much but by stealth - at least with the tories you know who's poisoning you!

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    Re: The bed-tax axed in Scotland.

    Post by papa_umau on Thu 13 Feb 2014, 12:14 pm

    You are so right there Andrew, as Blair was a great advocate for the increasing of the "stealth" taxes.

    Mind you, both New-Labour and the Tories have run with stealth taxation just about as far as they can and they are going to have to start to hit us more with direct taxation as, they know, that we know, that doing it by stealth is now not nearly so well hidden as it used to be.

    Of course I do hope that the next version of Labour is TRUE-Labour and not as it was with Blair and his New-Labour bunch of con-men.

    Blair took Labour just about as far to the right as he dared and the people of Britain are now not so gullible as they were then.


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