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    Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by papa_umau on Tue 19 Mar 2013, 12:02 pm

    A Freedom of Information request has found that in the last year drivers have paid more than 150 million in fines to private enforcement companies.

    Figures released under this Freedom of Information request show that the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency in Swansea handed over the details of nearly 1.5 million motorists to members of the British Parking Association, the industry trade body, last year.

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    I am sure that most of us, that are drivers, will already feel that we are being used as a cash-cow for privateers and local authorities to raise cash that they cannot get anywhere else, but I am also sure that the same drivers will be sick that these private and local authority entities can so easily get our personal details from the DVLA just for the asking.

    What say you ?


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    Post by Technician on Tue 19 Mar 2013, 2:06 pm

    Hi all,

    Hi Paps, quite right, we are cash cow's. A little near home this one. Local 'clowncils' are just as bad!.

    I had to go to my dentist as an emergency last week as I broke a tooth. I drove to the village in which the surgery is situated at 8.10am and parked my car in the 'clowncil' car part 2 mins from the surgery. I was in in agony, and rushed in for my 8.30 emergency appointment.

    I came out 20 mins later fixed up only to get back to my car to find the 'clowncil' had stuck a parking ticket on it.

    I have a resident permit, but in my rush, and pain I forgot to place it in the window, so 'bingo' I got a ticket. Its no use trying to argue with them that you made an error, or that it was an emergency. You even have to pay up over the phone using a automated computer voice !!.... No human contact.

    Ruddy typical

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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by papa_umau on Wed 20 Mar 2013, 10:45 am

    That's an awful story Technician, and my heart goes out to you.

    Thinking about how badly you were treated there made me look out the link below that applies to exactly this subject.

    Eric Pickles, ( a Conservative no less ), has started the ball rolling in parliament to try to ensure that such parking fines are not applied so vehemently when people are going to suffer as a result.

    Read about this one HERE


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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by bowsertoad on Wed 20 Mar 2013, 11:28 am

    The thing with your situation Technician, if it was someone else that had parked where you did without a parking permit, would you feel sympathy for that person?
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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by papa_umau on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 11:18 am

    I am sure you are technically, ( no pun intended ), right there Bowsie, but I am also sure that if you put yourself in Technicians place with severe toothache and you DID park in a proper car park rather than in a disabled bay or on a white line, you too might have felt aggrieved by the draconian way that that parking enforcer applied his or her decision.

    Yes it was Technician's fault that he did not show his "residents permit" but surely there has to be a bit of come and go in the way that these animals apply their parking enforcement rules.

    This example is why Eric Pickles, ( above ), is attempting to try to inject a bit of sanity into this profession and the way that they carry out their duties so keenly.

    ( Someone once correctly said: Rules are for the advisement of the wise and for the strict application of the fools !"


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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by Technician on Thu 21 Mar 2013, 10:43 pm

    Hi All,

    Yes, I can see all points of view here. I would feel just the same if it was anyone, parking permit or not. The whole situation is unfair, and its being run as a cash cow.

    Problem is, even if I was to provide a letter from the dentist it would make no difference to those jobsworths. It was as they will say 'my fault', and I went against the rules.

    The fact that I may have had extenuating circumstances matters not a jot. In fact they have no compassion. The bottom line is money, but in the end they create a groundswell of folks who have a seething resentment of their actions...And of course there are always the local elections.

    I hope none of the local councilors have the balls to come to my place on their political wanderings!!. The last one who did stood aghast while I told him I was voting UKIP!!!

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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by papa_umau on Fri 22 Mar 2013, 11:52 am

    And then there is the other view, ( one I VERY seldom take BTW ), and that is that while local authorities try to ensure that all of the essential services they provide are kept in place, they are constantly losing money from central government by cuts, cuts, and more cuts.

    This shortage of the government grant means that these councils have to get the money that they need to keep providing the services that we all take for granted by acquiring it in other ways.

    Of course their main source of income is the council tax but they are finding that this income does not now even touch what they spend on our vital services.

    Just like central government and their atrocious fuel tax "cash-cow", the local authorities use parking charges as their "cash-cow".

    It's not right, but would we rather not get our bins emptied regularly or our streets lit properly at night as a way to save this kind of money ?


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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by Technician on Sat 23 Mar 2013, 5:53 pm

    Hi all,

    Paps, I can see where you are coming from, and I too was taken in by that argument, but not anymore!!.

    Yes, government funds have been slashed, but ask yourself why some councils have postponed any rises in council tax ( as mine have).

    Evidence is emerging that even with this shortfall, so much extra money is being made from the likes of parking, speed cameras etc that the ammount is often the same as, if not more than that generated from the council tax. One cracking source of income is charging for 'services' which were once free, and grossly inflating 'fees' for other services, ie, planning applications for one.

    Many councils have 'posts of money' stashed away ( some, like speculating with our money, ie Icelandic banks!!)so they are hardly short of funds. That said many waste money on stupid projects and in bad planning decisions which further infuriate the public.

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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by papa_umau on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 11:54 am

    There again, you are right, as a lot of local councils do waste the money that they have by chucking it in stupid directions.

    My mantra, has always been that when central governments and local authorities spend money they should spend it by following priorities and not just because one department or ministry can put more pressure on the particular treasury than the others do.

    I have always thought that the distribution of such money is heavily weighted towards giving it to their pals more than giving it to the departments that need it the most for correctly-targeted requirements.

    Co-incidentally, that is one of the main reasons that even while I am a Socialist I support the SNP here because of their very well prioritised spending in Scotland.


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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by Technician on Sun 24 Mar 2013, 1:42 pm

    Hi Paps,

    Yes, quite correct. I too thought that in Scotland they seem much more to have their act together, and the SNP have some good spending/finance policies. Problem is Mr Salmond...Hell bent on being the new top man in a devolved 'Scotland'.

    I think if Scotland did go it alone it would get a sharp shock. I hope it does not, as I would like to see Salmonds face when the referendum goes against the SNP as I think it well could.

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    Re: Private parking fines reach 150 million

    Post by papa_umau on Mon 25 Mar 2013, 12:19 pm

    I know that this is running a bit off-topic, but, I am sure that Alex Salmond does not expect to stay the party leader or First Minister for long after the referendum, as most of us up here in Scotland know that after the, ( successful ), referendum is complete and Scotland has it's independence the political framework will change very quickly.

    We suspect that the voters will almost-certainly polarise to left and right after the referendum and this will create a three party system with the SNP caught in the middle afterwards.

    This, of course, is sheer speculation, but it will be interesting to see what happens then.


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