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    Cameron all flash and no bang !

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    Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by papa_umau on Mon 22 Oct 2012, 2:12 pm

    In his latest speech to the faithful Cameron has come across as full of empty ideas about crime but with no actual financing of these plans to add to make them work.

    To me he is trying very hard to look as if he has ideas for the future but these ideas do not fit into his chancellor's plans for reducing the deficit or for reducing borrowing when this borrowing has actually gone up under his watch.

    Maybe he plans to do this for free by applying his - also stupid - "big society" - by hoping for the people to do this work unpaid ?

    Read THIS and give us your opinion of these plans.


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    Re: Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by Guest on Mon 22 Oct 2012, 2:49 pm

    The thing is it's the opposition that's all flash and no bang.

    Crime figures are tumbling under the coalition

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9617326/Crime-falls-by-6-in-a-year-despite-riots.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/9617967/Recorded-crime-now-at-lowest-level-since-1986.html

    Lowest crime rate since Mrs Thatcher!

    It also lays to rest that old chestnut put about by 'old' Labour that crime was somehow related to poverty and/or unemployment, both of which the Guardian windbags would have use believe are tanking or at record highs.

    It's time we had a little truth out there, not just mudslinging because you can't bear to see anything with a Tory in it succeed!

    Thank heavens for the coalition!

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    Re: Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by papa_umau on Mon 22 Oct 2012, 2:53 pm

    And thank-heaven for the "Torygraph" as what would the faithful do without it ?


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    Re: Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by Guest on Mon 22 Oct 2012, 5:11 pm

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    Re: Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by papa_umau on Tue 23 Oct 2012, 11:33 am

    Clappers, being the intelligent guy you are you know that these figures are the figures that governments of all shades in the past have loved to "massage" "spin" and tell outright lies about.

    Just like the unemployment figures these figures - when released by government spin doctors to the press - have to be taken with a large pinch of salt.

    It would be wonderful if they were true, but I can guarantee that if you wait a while these massaged figures will rise again as they always do.

    I will start to believe such information when the jails suddenly begin to empty: at the moment they are all full to the brim.


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    Re: Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by Guest on Tue 23 Oct 2012, 1:32 pm

    So why the dig about the Torygraph?

    The fact is that you are so dogmatic in your stance you wouldn't accept anything good from a Tory, and your life is poorer as a result.

    Personally I would have claimed the success for new Labour as they were responsible for all the police state surveillance, draconian legislation etc that is responsible.

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    Re: Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by papa_umau on Wed 24 Oct 2012, 11:11 am

    Clapco wrote:So why the dig about the Torygraph?

    The fact is that you are so dogmatic in your stance you wouldn't accept anything good from a Tory, and your life is poorer as a result.

    Personally I would have claimed the success for new Labour as they were responsible for all the police state surveillance, draconian legislation etc that is responsible.

    Clapco

    The "dig" about the Torygraph is only the truth and sadly as long as the Tories have this rag as a mouthpiece I will give little credence to what it says that is connected with politics.

    I have listened to many great Tories of the past and my general depth of knowledge in dogmas means that outwith these few "great" Tories many of them are simply slaves to Thatcherism - which is the most damaging dogma of them all.

    As far as "police-state" "surveillance" and "draconian legislation" are concerned I have to say that right-wing governments all around the world - including Britain - have been the worst exponents of these unpleasant tactics.

    The only left wing governments that were worse than the right wing governments, as far as this is concerned, were the dogmatic Communist governments, and I have NEVER supported Communism !


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    Re: Cameron all flash and no bang !

    Post by Guest on Wed 24 Oct 2012, 11:45 am

    Hmmmm - Marxism, Socialism, Communism, whatever......

    As to your continual hiding behind Thatcher you reveal a paradox. 'Great' Tories cannot be great if they are slaves to Thatcherism. Therefore they cannot be slaves to Thatcherism because it wasn't around when they were great.

    She quit 22 years ago and you are STILL in denial!

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